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Thanks @bugmeist you keep picking remember I was a person who had a hard time getting the sound I always wanted so I spent a lot of time learning picking patterns both finger and flat pick and the lyrics kept failing making mistakes over and over then 1 day my hands started to finger pick even though they were sore joint issues in fingers I played through the pain kept working on natural ways to lessen the pain then started singing with the playing another hard time with mistakes over and over seemed I could play or sing but not both at the same time but I just kept at it if you keep at it you will also be playing the way you want to thanks for taking a listen and the support