[the-old-coach]

Nice work Fred!

This may be another form of spreading your wings/ trying new stuff.

“Going out of your way” to learn something new and/or different— or— overcoming an obstacle along your guitar-journey path……… is really awesome.

IMHO this is a subtle sort-of “by product” of the TAC program.

Our TAC program “spreads the learning and skills” all over the place, rather than pidgeon-holing us into specializing in just one area—— and all of this, over the long haul. An example of this is the 5 different areas of the “Daily Lessons”.

We’ll all find our own “lane” MUCH easier if we have a well rounded “base” to jump off from.

To me, anyways, your post is just this.

Again- nice work!

the old coach

[the-old-coach]

Right on Fred!

I’ve (also?) been monkeying with learning to play and sing at the same time. It has not been easy or pretty (believe me)- but at the point I’m at– I really don’t/can’t expect it to be.

I too have seen myself be “monotone-y” and “rigid” as I concentrate WAY hard on ***just getting thru*** a song. That’s when I chuckle at me, and remind myself try to ***remember… that I’m PLAYING the song***. Emphasis- “PLAYING”……

It’s not supposed to be easy, but at my (our?) stage of the game– it’s not supposed to be “work” either🤔.

When I do get the “monotone-ys”, I revert back to the tabs for the song, and crank up a YouTube video or I just “ask Alexa” to play it– and play and sing along with the artist playing and singing. That brings me back to how the ARTIST played it- (with all the cool inflections, tones, runs, etc). Like a giant re-set button, this kind-of “sets me straight” so to speak, with the song. And off I go on it again- with the “original directions” fresh in my mind.

My hope is that automatic memory will finally/eventually kick in.

Anyway- seems I’ve turned into the Allman Brothers- “Lord I was born a Ramblin’ Man”……🙄

Go get ’em!

the old coach

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Willy-

My advice– be cool.

I’ve read every word in every post in this thread– twice…. From a lot of great people– there is indeed a lot of great advice and suggestions given in the responses here- (and I’m not talking about my post, that’s for sure)- and I CERTAINLY don’t have any advice better than those.

It’s YOUR posts that catch my interest. I think that what you are/were experiencing is CLASSIC.

Being bogged-down/ bummed out/ bored/ “lost”…….. If you’re NOT feeling that way, then you’re not doin’ it right.

It was- (and still is)- in ALL of us here at some time (and)/or another. I say it like that, because it comes around again and again. If it **doesn’t** happen to you- then I’d start worrying- because then it’s all “too easy”.

Learning to play a guitar is TOUGH…. Enjoy that….. If it’s too easy- you won’t get to experience the satisfaction. Expect tough. “Through” that, you’ll realize that the key is the FUN that Mike talks about. None of us are likely to be the next George Harrison…… Realizing just **that** takes “the pressure” off.

I can tell by YOUR posts that “it” is within you. You know what to do- and how to do it.

Small bites– enjoy the TRIP– forget about the destination…..

Be cool.

The Old Coach

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Explainer–

Really sorry about all the CAPITAL letters, and asterisks, when I want to emphasize something😃.

It’s NOT that I’m trying to yell to make a point!

When I try to put something in italics, or underline something using the buttons- (here in the lower left corner)– sometimes it shows up ***in the post*** with all sorts of weird symbols before and after the words I want to emphasize.

Please forgive.

MORE IMPORTANTLY– Let’s keep Willy’s thread going strong- (this affects EVERY single TAC member at one time and/or another!)🤔

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Mike-

Wow- thanks for sharing that!

It reminds me- (and it should)- how much I don’t know.

Your video/post has a great “one-to-one” feeling about it– the kind of stuff that **really** gets the point(s) across, but in a laid-back sort-of style.

(You may be onto somethin’ there🤔).

I’m gonna watch-thru it again– with guitar in hand.

Thanks again

mark

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MrFred-

This is a great point of view in my opinion.

Sometimes I’ll start off some really brilliant🤨 thing I’m about to say with something like- “A really smart man once told me……..”

So, sort of along the lines of your viewpoint- (again🤨)——–

A REALLY experienced musician I know actually did once tell me- “You are ONLY going to be successful playing along with– or in front of– others…….. when “you fully accept the fact that it’s OK to make a complete fool of yourself.”

Smooth water never made for a good sailor— failing is good.

Great post and point of view– thanks for sharing.

the old coach

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All–

I am really amazed and appreciative and thankful at the responses you all have put forward here.

You all are some of my “heavy hitters” here in the Forum- your words, advice, and encouragement mean a LOT. (And not just to me- and not just this thread…. maybe there are others “reading along” and wondering about this subject, too- and that’s awesome!).

I think I’m vaguely on the right track with how I want to work toward, and eventually accomplish this playing-and-singing thing….. And, as Jeff would say, you have lighted the path.

I have read all your answer-posts– (and even my original post)- at least 3 times over– both the words, and also if there is anything “between” the lines.

Thank you all– again– for your insight, experience, and generosity- (and that’s not just in ***this*** thread🙂)

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Fred-

Don’t forget— to a certain extent, we all get “lifted up” just a little everytime one of us shares a win, or has a question, or just has an idea about something.

We either think back about how we went thru the same thing– or think forward about how we’ll do it when we get there- (but now we have others’ advice and info to help).

We all gain by reading each others’ posts, and even by reading our own again.

S’ all good.😀.

the old coach

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There’s a local band around where we live. They don’t play anywhere else but right around our area. They have played the EXACT same sets and songs– for decades.

(Here’s where I’m going with this, and how it relates to this thread)……

Over the years, after playing them probably thousands of times, they have CHANGED the old songs they play (probably without even noticing it themselves)- to the point that they sound different from the original versions- (mostly 80’s and 90’s music)- sometimes portions are WAAAY different. As I said- I don’t think they even realize it.

That’s why at my level- (WAY down the ladder still)- I have to listen to the original version(s) occasionally- to keep things “real”.

the old coach

[the-old-coach]

Thanks Stevie. It was deep fun!

[the-old-coach]

Guess I’m “aging” myself………

[the-old-coach]

👍 Thanks for responding!

TOC

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Cadgirl-

New at this standing-thing.

I’ll keep working trying to find a comfortable “way” to stand.

A couple decades of climbing power poles- (the old-fashioned way)- it’s “easier” somehow to keep moving around instead of standing still.

But, sitting is the best way for me overall.

Thanks for responding!

the old coach

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Albert-

TOTALLY agree.

I read once somewhere one trick to improved guitar playing (only?) was to practice and play with the TV on- (or some other noise going on). Guess it’s supposed to help your brain be able to “see through” the distraction and focus on the execution and technique at hand- (playing).

I know it’s a bit of a stretch, but isn’t that kinda what’s going on when performing a song? The- (deliberate at this point)- distractions for me were– 1. Standing, 2. Remembering the lyrics and chords, and, 3. Actually singing.

This was all just really sort of a big, deliberate, experiment.

The goals?– Do new stuff, test myself, and get feedback……..

The result?– a new perspective– “performing” a song!!!

Your post is RIGHT ON, and I’ll of course keep guitar-improvement as a major part of the picture- (because I just LOVE the sounds that come from that inanimate wooden box with strings).

Thanks again for answering!- (means a LOT).

the old coach

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Kitman–

Maybe you remember a group called “The New Christy Minstrels”?

Well, I guess I’d be “the old crusty minstrel”?😏……..

the old coach