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Fretboard Wizard
If you all don’t mind, I’m going to post my questions here. I’m not getting responses when I post them after each Wizard lesson.
Fretboard W is causing me to relook at things more in-depth. so..
1) In the matrix, each column is a chord. If I didn’t know the chords, like a C in the C matrix chord for example, how would I know where to place my fingers? I know I’ll be playing C, E, and G notes, but on which strings?
Just a LOL moment. I thought the root note was the lowest note on the neck. (Definition of a root note is the lowest fretted note). Well…..I was defining ‘lowest’ differently. In guitar, ‘lowest’ means the strings, where hi E is the highest and low E is the lowest. LOL
Have a great Labor Day!
campfire
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You are correct that C-E-G would be the notes for a C chord (1-3-5). Now about inversion. If the C is the lowest note (most Bass note) that would be the Root inversion. If the E (3rd note) is the lowest Bass note that is the first inversion. if the G (5th note) is the lowest Bass note that would be the second inversion. If it were a C7 chord with four notes and that 7th was the lowest note, it would be the third inversion. Now I’ve never really thought about how you know which string to play the notes on. It’s always been for me which strings will my finders reach. The different chord shapes let one play the same chords in different voicings in different places on the neck and in different inversions. If I’m playing with some one who is playing an open C chord, I might play the same C chord with an A shape on the 5th fret (root on C on 5th fret) or an E shape barre or (mini F shape) on the 8th fret to achieve the same chord with a different voicing. I’m not sure if I am addressing your question, but the fact that you are asking helps us all grow. Thanks.
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Hello,
I am not sure if Campfire was able to become unstuck with her question about fretboard wizard, and I am finding myself with the same question. I do not see any connection with the chord matrix approach, locating the 3 notes, understanding if it is a major 3rd or a minor 3rd, and how to locate those notes on the neck of the guitar to form the correct chord. I don’t even know where to start to try and unpack which note would be the lowest or highest within the 3 notes that form the chord. I feel really stuck here and apologies in advance if I am not explaining my blocker in detail that well. I am thinking this may need a conversation to help further explain this approach, so that I may have an aha moment lol 🙂
Hoping someone might be able to further assist here.
Cheers,
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Hey jjdeben!
Congrats on working on the Fretboard Wizard. It took me 6 weeks but 4 of those weeks I also kept up w/ the Challenge. After CAGED, spent over 2 weeks on that one, I decided to do what Tony suggested, don’t do the Challenge. Much less stress.
On one of the daily challenges last week. It was tab where we were to play C-E-G all over the fretboard. I didn’t have to figure out C-E-G on each string, just follow the tab. (Wish I could be more specific, but I’m camping and didn’t bring that tab.) that tab helped me answer my question.
However, this understanding doesn’t stay long because I can’t explain to you unless I have the tab. ….
I’ll let you know the tab when I get home and check my files.
campfire
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Thank you so much campfire for getting back to me so quickly and it sounds like you are having a great time in the outdoors!
It would be great to understand a little better about your approach when you have an opportunity to look at the tab once again.
I will continue to struggle through, although, I think I am to follow the chords on the tab and then see how the numbers land on each string…or something to that effect.
I feel that this was not explained during the anatomy of chords session really well. Either way, I do wish to see if I can work through this, so I am able to see how different chords come together nicely and eventually come up with my own style.
Have a great time and looking forward to hearing back.
Cheers!
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will do. However, I won’t be home till 2nd or 3rd week of Oct.
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Since I good internet at this campsite, I looked at all the tabs from the past 3 weeks. I didn’t recognize any of them. Think I might call my son to look in my Fretboard notes and see if he can tell me. I feel like it’s right here somewhere, but no luck.
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Sure, and thank you for looking while you’re away. Unfortunately, I am still struggling to understand how to put the chords together by writing down the major/minor chord matrix and identifying the 1st, 3rd, and 5th degrees. I am still not seeing the correlation lol. It would be nice to be able to do a Zoom session with him to ask questions. Keeping at it.
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More silly questions about Fretboard Wizard,
1) When you create a chord matrix (e.g., C major C, D, E, F, G, A, B, C) and 1, 4, 5 are major and 2, 3, 6 are minor, how do you figure out the shape of each chord and where it lands on the fretboard?
2) Are we using the major and minor scales to identify the keynote and where the notes land on the strings to form a chord?
3) When you find the keynote as you listen to a song (e.g., B major, B, C#, D#, E, F#, G#, A#, B), are the main chords for that song within the B major matrix?
4) Can you mix the minor and major chords within the matrix to play a song, or would you match major with major and minor to minor?
I am sure I will have more silly questions and I hope you may be able to guide me through my struggles lol.
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Questions not silly. For one of your questions about where to put your fingers on what strings to make a chord from the matrix…. I think it’s to put your fingers on the strings , figuring that out by using the musical alphabet. A c chord exactly matched the letters on the strings C. E. G
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Hi campfilre and friends,
So, I had another question, and let me see if I able to explain this well enough so it may make sense, lol. I tried to put together a quick visual to help me explain and show you how I am following the chord matrix. I attached the images below.
When I put together the major and minor chord matrix as Tony shares with us in our lessons, I seem to follow the pattern of transitioning the chords down the neck of the fretboard toward the body of the guitar and matching the A-G notes to the chords accordingly (e.g., D major based on progression 1 – 6 in the D major chord matrix).
When I read the chord matrix in this way, what am I doing wrong?
If I am completely off here, please share, and if you could do so in a way as if I am brand new to learning guitar 😉
Thank you, all!
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Can I hitch hike onto this thread? Quickly, I just started Fretboard Wizard. Tony keeps talking about challenges after the lessons. “Do the challenge” etc. Is there a challenge video after each lesson that I’m missing? Or is “the challenge” just to do what he tells you to do lol. Thx 🙂
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Most of the lessons have 2 videos, the “Learn” video and the “Play” video (just like the daily challenges do).
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Thanks Moose! That saved me. Didn’t realize that I needed to click on the grayed out word “play” to get to the challenge. Kudos!
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No your not missing anything. I think he means that in the luck we can figure out the key, also do a matrix to get the chords. Then on Wednesday improvisation… maybe that’s when we’re suppose to figure out key and then on Thursday we’ll get the answer and find out how correct we were. I understood it then but it’s been a few weeks. I’m camping and all my stuff is at home so I can’t review my notes. But there aren’t anymore ideas with each challenge.
Of course, join in, anytime. We’re all just try to learn and improve.
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I might suggest that you find a guitar chord chart, some are simple with fewer chords while others can be quite extensive with every possible chord option displayed. Find one that is clear and easy for you to understand. There are several different ways to play each chord and a chord chart should help clarify some of the confusion you may be experiencing as you transfer the concepts of a matrix, from paper to your guitars fretboard. Music theory can get overwhelming pretty quickly, just think – baby steps – and try not to over complicate. 😉
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There’s one included in the Fretboard Wizard packet.
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