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  • Lost ability to strum

    Posted by Loraine on May 25, 2024 at 1:42 pm

    Hey Everyone. I’m really nervous and frustrated about something. I’m more a rhythm player. I’m unable to play fingerstyle, because I have tremors on my hands. So I rely on my ability to strum, which I’ve worked hard at it (who woulda thought that strumming would be so difficult?). The past 2 months I’ve struggled with down and upstrums, but more so the upstrum; I’m unable to get my wrist and hand to respond correctly. I’m also either hitting the down strums too hard or missing them altogether. It’s like my hand flicks out, and it simply will not come close to the strings. If I try to play with a lighter touch, the following explanation is even more exaggerated l

    To be fair, I have fibromalgia, which interferes with my ability to loosen up to strum many time (most of the time). I’m unable to just strum away with a loose wrist with loose and well timed up and downs.

    I find I’m unable to loosen up at all, and my hand and wrist are flicking out away from the guitar, and I conciously try to.pull it back to the strings but my hand wants nothing to do with that.

    Has anyone else experienced this?

    I’m hoping it’s not another neurologic issue. I would not know what to do if I had to give up the guitar. But I’m catastrophizing. I’m going find a solution and implement s few charges and keep moving forward staying as positive as I can.

    musicrme replied 1 year, 9 months ago 5 Members · 10 Replies
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  • CHEzjeje

    Member
    June 4, 2024 at 9:30 am

    Mark 5:36

    • Loraine

      Member
      June 5, 2024 at 5:59 pm

      Thank you @CHEzjeje . I will look that up.

  • Philb

    Member
    June 4, 2024 at 2:44 pm

    I’m so sorry to hear this Loraine. Keep doing what you need to do, looking at options, and keep yourself well.

    • Loraine

      Member
      June 5, 2024 at 5:58 pm

      Thanks @Philb . I was able to semi play 2 songs at a jam without them sounding absolutely horrendous. I tried to focus on keeping hand close to strings. Another guy at the jam said he saw me struggling. I peraonallu think it goes along with my other neurological issues, but it’s frustrating. I refuse to let it interfere or stop me from playing guitar.

      • Philb

        Member
        June 9, 2024 at 2:52 pm

        I’m glad you are keeping it going. Take good care through this Loraine!

  • Beatrice

    Member
    June 4, 2024 at 3:03 pm

    Hey Loraine,

    sorry to hear that, could you give Physio or massage therapy a go? could be helpful

    • Loraine

      Member
      June 5, 2024 at 5:54 pm

      Yes, that is a good idea, because of how stiff I am. Another person at my jam last weekend suggested getting a drum stick and just using it as a pendulum and to practice up and down just when I’m idle. It will create muscle memory if the motion. I’ve slowed down my playing to and tried to focus on when I was having problems and identifying what’s going on.

  • musicrme

    Member
    June 9, 2024 at 2:02 pm

    Hello!

    I am new to TAC (first week), but not new to making music. I do not know what you have accomplished, but I’ll share something, just in case it is helpful. If not, please disregard.

    I know how important music is, especially while creating your own on an instrument you love, have invested time, money, and heart into, and want to continue playing. I have a couple thoughts . . .

    I am not proficient at guitar – average, self-taught – but I do teach piano, so I’ll offer a tip that might help (if what you are experiencing is not neurological). There are so many things to manage while playing an instrument, so being able to isolate one thing can make a difference. So, say for instance, if a piano student is tightening into an unhealthy hand posture during a particular passage, I take them off the keys, lower the lid over the keyboard (the fall board), take them through a couple relaxation exercises (posture check, Heavy Ropes, meaning let the arms fully fall from the shoulders like heavy weights, shake them out, then bend at an imaginary hinge installed in the elbow as they float onto the keys to continue feeling the same relaxation while playing). Then, instead of having them play the tension-building music/exercise on the keyboard, I have them play it on the fall board where we focus on looking at the hand, the fingers, and keeping that light, floating feeling in the arm as they play the piece on the top of the wood. When they are ready, we open the fall board, check their posture, re-do Heavy Ropes, float their hands to the keys by bending at the imaginary elbow-hinge, then work to keep their hands inside the same relaxation as they rest their fingers on the instrument. Then, as they keep their body feeling the same as when they played on the fall board, they begin to engage with the keys.

    How does this transfer to guitar strumming? I’ll share a couple ideas that might help, or inspire new concepts from there:

    · Remove the guitar from your lap to try something similar.

    · Install an imaginary string to the top of your head that pulls your posture upward, as everything else relaxes (similar to what Tony says). If you are able, another way to check posture is by taking a few seconds to stand on your toes. It is difficult to have poor posture when standing or walking this way. If your posture is off, losing balance from a brief toe-check will tell you your posture needs a quick adjustment. (Ever notice toddlers when they first learn to walk? They balance themselves by walking on their toes. It automatically creates perfect posture). If you are able to stay on your toes, memorize the feeling. Keep the string pulling upward from the top of the head. When you sit back down, bend from the waist, but keep everything above the belt line feeling the same. Memorize the feeling and recheck as often as needed.

    · While maintaining your posture, do the heavy ropes exercise by letting your arms hang heavily from your shoulders as the imaginary string at your head continues to hold your spine upward while your arms relax comfortably, falling heavily at your sides. No tension.

    · Without the guitar, quietly bend your arm at the imaginary hinge installed in your elbow as you float your forearm into position, then lightly begin air strumming without a pick, as if you are strumming the guitar, much like my students do while playing on the fall board. This allows you to focus on your body rather than the instrument.

    · Is your elbow relaxed? Your forearm? Shoulders? Is your hand relaxed from your wrist? Let it fall naturally, feeling limp. Is your body flicking your hand outward, or can you lightly strum the air? Try different types of strumming you have practiced. Create a body memory for each strum. Is air strumming working? Is your arm and hand remaining relaxed?

    · When you are ready, replicate that motion over the guitar – but do not strum the strings, yet. Feel the sensation of moving a relaxed hand as you air strum in front of the strings. Memorize the feeling. Create the formation of new sensory muscle memory. Breathe . . . Relax . . . No stress . . . No fear . . . Let it feel safe.

    · When you are ready, begin lightly strumming – no pick. Maintain the same air motion, the same relaxation, the same floating as your forearm hangs loose and continues moving with the aid of the pivot point of that elbow hinge. Keep it light. Don’t focus on sound or playing every string. Focus on the feeling. Check your posture, the upward tug of the head string, the motion in your hand. Is it flicking outward, now?

    · If that is comfortable and seems successful, try adding the pick. You could begin the same way. Check your posture before beginning to air pick away from the guitar without a tight grip. Keep it loose and easy. Go through the steps to eventually add the guitar and bringing your pick to the strings. Focus on the feeling of relaxation and lightly draping your hand from a relaxed wrist, as much as you can. Ignore the sound, this is about establishing a new sensation to your playing, a new way of being. Then take it by steps while trying to isolate the root of the problem. Is it posture, the way you hold the guitar (some say holding it so the neck of the guitar is pointing more upward compared to parallel to the ground can take stress off the fret hand, or purchasing a little foldable guitar foot stand could help keep it high enough while playing without needing to anchor the heal on the edge of a chair, et al, while maintaining more relaxation in the body). Are you unconsciously squeezing the pick, playing too loudly that could generate more tension, holding overall generalized tension in the body? Are you breathing? In through the nose, out through the mouth? (I use these techniques for my own tendency of holding tension in my body. Sometimes it takes mindful mind-over-matter to make changes that may be drastic, or subtle, depending on the need. Tension can be unlearned, but it often requires uncomfortable change – but worth it.)

    · If part of the problem comes from gripping the pick too tightly, you could try a Fender Mojo Grip pick (shape 351) which works well for me (they come in white or brown). It has a black rubber-type holder that fits over the top of the pick adding bulk and removing my need for a vice-type grip when I am picking. It changed everything. The rubber material is tacky, so it kind of sticks to my fingers, removing the concern of dropping it when I play. The pick can also be removed from the rubber holder to change it out to a different pick you might already have on hand. I purchased their medium pick, over the light. Light picks can take a little extra effort and motion to strum compared to the medium. But it’s all personal preference. The sales person at my local music store talked me into the medium, and I had my doubts, but he was right. I have more control over what I am doing with less effort. They come in packs of 3, and I love them.

    I hope it helps!

    • This reply was modified 1 year, 9 months ago by  musicrme.
    • Loraine

      Member
      June 9, 2024 at 8:31 pm

      @musicrmemsn-com Thank you so much for your very thoughtful message. You make some great suggestions , and I will definitely try to incorporate them. Can’t hurt.

      I do have a difficult time relaxing because of the fibromyalgia. Because I’m constantly tense, I do have difficulty playing guitar. I also have hand tremors and wonder if my hand jerking out is an extension to that. I tried to relax as much as possible but it is very difficult. I like the idea of putting the guitar away and practicing the relaxation and then gradually incorporating air strumming and then reintroducing the guitar and strumming without a pick and gradually re-introducing the guitar and the pick together.

      I’ll try and remember to update this thread at a later date with how things are working out.

      Thank you again

  • musicrme

    Member
    June 9, 2024 at 10:53 pm

    Yeah . . . it couldn’t hurt. Like with my “sprained” hand that was
    going up my arm. Doing the same thing wasn’t going to help. I had to try
    something different; I just didn’t know what. It’s tough to have a
    chronic condition. I have one myself. But getting a work-around can
    sometimes bridge moving into a new way of getting things done. I look
    forward to receiving an update, good or not as good. I’m pulling for
    you!

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