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  • Trickey Texture Thursday

    Posted by PaulabMoore on July 31, 2025 at 8:23 am

    I totally don’t get how Tony is labeling these chords. For instance, loE 332 is not like the C chord I know. I know 5:3, 4:2, 2:1. The shape is not the same. Like wise for the other measures and chords.

    PaulabMoore replied 7 months, 3 weeks ago 3 Members · 4 Replies
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  • albert_d

    Member
    July 31, 2025 at 1:53 pm

    @bill_brown explains this well, I think.

    In todays chord progression we are playing 2nd inversion triads (of the C master shape) on the loE, A & D string set. The open G string is being used as a drone and isn’t part of the chord. Every note played on the loE string is a 5th, every note played on the A string is a root, and every note played on the D string is a 3rd – some will be major 3rds and some will be minor 3rds – it’s the 3rd that makes a chord major or minor.
    The chord triad names are as follows;
    C = 332XXX, Dm = 553XXX, F = 887XXX, Em = 775XXX, Am = 12 12 10 XXX, and G = 10 10 9 XXX.
    Can you see the difference between the major and minor 3rds played on the D string?

    • Loraine

      Member
      July 31, 2025 at 6:21 pm

      @albert_d Great explanation. I haven’t been able to do lessons because of schedule and things I’m on a timeline for. Would you say that the chords art power chords too?! I do note over chords, but that discounts the notes on the D..

  • Loraine

    Member
    July 31, 2025 at 7:33 pm

    Hi Paula laughing because I just typed an explanation or answer to your question but I’m dictating and I looked at my dog and started talking to my dog everything typed out and then I must’ve hit it and it disappeared so now I have to start all over Lucky you!

    If I am reading your question correctly it sounds to me as if you’re asking how can a C chord have a different shape of the neck then what you’ve learned. The answer to that lies in fretboard theory, which is covered inTAC’s Fretboard Wizard course. I suggest everyone take the course maybe not right when you’re a newbie but if you purchase it you own it for life and most people go through it quite often and they pick up something new every time it is not a full theory course it covers what you basically need for foundational knowledge.

    You ask a great question, because it’s very confusing why an open C chord, or any other cord at the top of the neck that you learn when you first start all of a sudden becomes a C chord, but in a different location and it doesn’t look the same.

    The simplest explanation is that there is something called CAGED Theory. Each letter in CAGED is a chord name. So you have a C chord shape, A chord shape, G chord shape, E chord shape and D chord shape.

    You play an open C chord that you learned, using a pattern to get to wear the next C chord on the neck you would then Play it but it would be in the shape of an A chord. A confusing issue is the fact that the shape doesn’t necessary look like you’re playing. That is because you’re open C chord has five notes in it, but you’re only fretting three of those notes The other 2 are strummed as open strings, so a total of 5 notes in a C chord. To understand how many strings you are strumming you need to know the root note, and that is another part of theory that needs to be learned in order play songs correctly. So the shape will be different because of the number of notes that are in the chord, and because of the shape the next C would be under the CAGED system. Using the tools learned in theory or or fretboard wizard, you will learn the rules of how to get to the next chord or shape. The next C chord , after the A shape, would be in a G shape.

    This process applies to all the open chords, so if you have an open D chord, the next would loop to the C shaped chord, etc.

    Confusing, but it does get easier have a mantra that I was told by my best friends when I lived in Chicago. “Baby steps, Loraine, Baby steps”. I tried to use this so I do not have too high of expectations which can lead to disappointment I basically know that if I do the steps and put an effort into it through the lessons or taking theory or fretboard wizard that I am going to learn the guitar. And address tony’s philosophy it’s you will get better putting in a minimum of 10 minutes per day but you will progress faster if you do a little bit more than 10 minutes his progress over perfection just continue the lessons even though you may not understand them or feel you can do them do your best after 10 minutes mark it complete. You can work on it longer, but do not let it hold you back. You want to continue to move forward there are many lessons that rotate back around and there are the quarterly check ins

    I know this sounds like hell of a lot of information, but I was trying to simplify it as best I could so people could understand if anyone has any questions the forums are the best place to ask them there are so many knowledgeable people out here more knowledgeable than me a lot more knowledgeable than me. Ask away keep plug along and don’t forget to have fun!

  • PaulabMoore

    Member
    August 1, 2025 at 7:50 am

    Thanks so much Lorraine for the thorough explanation. I started fretboard wizard but stopped when I started the TAC lessons. Not only will I follow through with FW, I will also save your reply to reread a few times. What amazes me about this course is how people are so willing to help each other and also how things unexpectedly start falling into place. Much gratitude. Paula

    PS. I’ve had the same thing happen to me with auto texting.

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