Alternative to the CAGED system??

[jumpinjeff]

far as I can tell that is the nuts and bolts of CAGED. Similar to what Fret Wiz is without the interaction and way more condensed: less explanation. It looks accurate and precise. In the end it leads back to CAGED: cant get away from it….kinda like gravity. If you study Shin’s material you will understand why.

[ShawnS]

Thanks jumpinjeff – I thought Shin’s approach made things a tad simpler.

[Bill_Brown]

That was a nice little course @Sungreen , but I have to agree with @jumpinjeff – nuts & bolts of CAGED. It’s based on partial E & A shaped barre chords (and the open D shape too). I like how they broke the barre chords into segments of strings, but essentially you’re just playing segments of barre chords – but only touching on 3 of the 5 chord shapes in CAGED. If you examine what this course calls “roots” (RT) closely, you’ll see that, starting with RT1=partial E shaped barre chords, RT2=open D shaped chords, RT3=partial A shaped barre chords, RT4=partial E shaped barre chords, RT5=full A shaped barre chords, and finally RT6=full E shaped barre chords.

But all in all, still a fun read, thanks for sharing👍

[ShawnS]

I guess that is what I liked about it – a lot less use of barre chords. Thanks for feedback Bill.

[Bill_Brown]

Yes, less use of full barre chords, but still basic barre chord segments – nothing wrong with that🤩

[N-lightMike]

Here’s my take on this @ShawnS

I’ve read quite a few different ways to approach music theory, and guitar applied music theory.

I gotta admit, that I think it makes sense to apply music theory to the guitar for those who are going to play guitar. Why teach me music theory on the piano when I play guitar?

So, this approach is how this person, finally, came to understand music theory… specifically on the guitar. It took him a long time. Every person who shares their approach has the same objective, to save me time by showing me how to see the big picture that they see. I believe that each of the different perspectives I looked at might have helped me to some small degree. However, what every one of these teachers overlooked, was that I can’t see through their eyes. The only way for me to see the big picture as clearly as they do is to put the time in exploring the guitar, playing, practicing, dreaming about chord shapes, going into a meditative state and “hearing” intervals on the guitar, or however each of us does it. Eventually, the whole fretboard will gel into one, interconnected pattern.

And when we finally get there, we’ll have our own way of describing the big picture because we are a unique individual.

So many people share “what they wished they knew when they were starting out”. Here’s mine: stop wasting time thinking about music and guitar, and spend more time messing around with the guitar. Hands on, ears focused, heart open, brain turned off.

MG 😀

[ShawnS]

Thanks Mike. The biggest thing that makes sense is ‘heart on brain off’.😀

[N-lightMike]

You are very welcome. It is a joy to help. Lot’s of times I see things more clearly because I’m trying to explain something to someone else. So thank you very much for your post.

MG 😀

[ted_h]

That is profound! I love it!

[N-lightMike]

Thank you so much, @ted_h . As I said to @ShawnS above, some of the credit must go to him for asking the question. I did write down what I said so I can remember it myself and maybe make a song out of it. 😁

MG 😀

[the-old-coach]

Mike—

Great post- within a great thread!

Your last line- (in italics)- is 😀👍👍👍. Took me awhile to catch on to that mentality. Old saying– “Paralysis by Analysis”…… bad.

Mark J

[N-lightMike]

Hey Mark @mkjohnsons

Thanks for the reply.

It’s interesting, I have heard that saying of course, but I hadn’t put this guitar specific thing together with that saying. “Paralysis by analysis”. I should have known that’s what I’d do with guitar since I am prone to that dark hole. I find it fascinating how many ways we can fool ourselves. 🙄

MG 😀