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  • Something besides “Get Unstuck”

    Posted by the-old-coach on March 28, 2021 at 3:19 pm

    At every level, no matter if you are expert or beginner, it seems we are all here for the same purpose -learning- guitar. A very important part of that is– the advice, hints, tips, help, etc, that comes from those farther along the path than you,

    If a person simply has a general question about a particular thing- (maybe hand or finger movement, or pick accuracy, or rhythm- there a probably hundreds if issues)- and may be just looking for a quick tip or piece of advice, that —doesn’t— mean they are “stuck”, or need anything like “Get Unstuck”.

    PLEASE restore some kind of “area” where simple questions can be posted— this helps members a LOT– while still keeping the Forum’s focus on– learning– guitar. Remember: Learning— at its core– is about sharing info, hints, advice, etc👍.

    Proactive sharing of help and advice would in fact help keep folks from GETTING “stuck” in the first place.

    If EVERYTHING is lumped into a huge catch-all named “Getting Unstuck”- then there won’t be any easy way to separate-out things. It’ll be too big and broad.

    However— Congrats on the new website!!- It is really awesome! I sincerely don’t want to appear like a complainer or troublemaker- I just hope there is enough of an open mind to adapt in some ways to the many suggestions that come from those who the Forum is actually designed to serve and help.

    Read my posts over the last few months- I have made many, many— many— comments on how important, fun, and helpful the Forum Community is , especially welcoming new-(er)-people who have joined after myself. I have have received much help and “met” great friends here! It really is one of the cornerstones of the TAC program!

    I hope the “old” Forum’s friendly, familiar, helpful, “easy”, feeling isn’t gone for good, that they haven’t “thrown the baby out with the bathwater?………

    Not complaining, but honestly– a bit concerned😧-

    Mark J

    was-Dan replied 3 years, 10 months ago 9 Members · 13 Replies
  • 13 Replies
  • bugmeist

    Member
    March 28, 2021 at 4:02 pm

    @Mark. This, of course, is where the simple yet effective “like” button worked. The poster could see that their post was useful without those reading it having to respond with words (which is often difficult to do).

  • KathyCP99

    Member
    March 28, 2021 at 4:40 pm

    Very well put, @Mark.

  • Michelle-PSL

    Member
    March 28, 2021 at 4:44 pm

    Excellent point Mark! Maybe it is simply renaming the area to “Tips, Tricks, and Getting Unstuck”

  • the-old-coach

    Member
    March 28, 2021 at 9:31 pm

    Thank you for your responses- more than you know. If it isn’t obvious, I stand before you offering my ramblings with very, very, little technical/computer-type knowledge.

    Maybe like many others just starting-out in the TAC program- (at least before the new roll-out)- I feel the Forum Community in here had a real, helpful, personal, friendly, feel to it. I hope that will continue— to me, it is all the difference.

    It is very important to have that place to turn to if you have a thought or question or idea or problem. THAT is the essence of learning to do something like play guitar.

    Seems like questions & small issues are expected— if you’re doin’ it right……

  • Levi

    Administrator
    March 29, 2021 at 11:03 am

    Great feedback Mark! I like how you tied it back to the the TAC philosophy.

    We’ll definitely take this idea into account. Fully thought out and considerate feedback like this is super helpful.

  • punder

    Member
    March 29, 2021 at 2:38 pm

    Hey Mark,

    “Patrick U” here. Nice to talk with you again! Great post, I completely agree with your concern and the way you express it.

    Everybody knows (or should, anyway) how difficult a big software project is, and that they NEVER work as intended or expected right away. So we can afford to chill a bit while these folks work through the issues. The last thing I want to do is pile on while the team is busting their, you know.

    BUT (sorry, team, you knew it was coming!) I am a little worried that they’ve decided to commit too firmly to a “design concept.” Which is a different problem than just getting things working.

    The aim seems to be: streamline, consolidate, pare away everything that doesn’t fit neatly in the “concept.” Which, in practice, has resulted in overly narrow constraints on member interaction, and much anxiety in the community.

    So yeah, I was worried that I was posting in the wrong place; worried that my posts would be deleted; and worried that no one would see my posts in any case. Those worries appear to have been unfounded. But I am also worried that these restrictions and limitations will be permanently enshrined in the name of “concept.”

    Maybe worth saying also that criticism does not equal rejection. This process should include feedback from the paying customers, as a matter of course. Nothing wrong with that, unless someone decides that “concept” triumphs over user experience.

    I don’t think that’s going to happen. We just need a little patience.

    (Having a lot of trouble getting this to take, so my apologies if multiple posts.)

    • Levi

      Administrator
      March 30, 2021 at 1:42 pm

      Yeah, that’s makes sense from your perspective, @punder

      In total transparency, in the past a change might have been brought about by finding some new, wizbang technology (the “old” forums, for example, happened this way).

      However, after six years, this most recent iteration started the opposite way. What are we? How can we best be that? Now, what technology and features can we use to get that in the simplest way?

      It’s a much different sequence than the earlier days where we didn’t understand our members and our method as well so we were more free to try everything to see what worked. Now it’s time to pair down based on data, feedback, and usage observations.

      The thing that’s hardest to see from the outside is six years of observation and method iteration used to then have white board brainstorm after white board brainstorm over the course of a year+ to refine a concept.

      And in the end, you have to move forward and watch the results in the real world and adjust where needed. 🙂

      • punder

        Member
        March 30, 2021 at 4:02 pm

        Thank you @Levi. Believe me I’ve been in lots of those meetings and I sympathize. 😉

      • AttyTJ

        Member
        March 30, 2021 at 5:46 pm

        Thank you @Levi and team. Probably doesn’t need to be said, but being heard is supporting and encouraging, as it makes more sense that what we are talking about is also important in the the process. So, again, thanks for hearing us.

        And as I write this I notice it is now in “Community Support,” and for me that is a much better encouragement for all of us to continue trying to learn from each other (and the Lessons) and help each other as we go.

        And @Punder and @Mark, you got this snowball rolling and now we have progress we can feel, so thank you as well.

      • was-Dan

        Member
        March 30, 2021 at 9:43 pm

        Thanks Levi for clearing the air.

  • punder

    Member
    March 29, 2021 at 8:19 pm

    Looks like you get results, Mark!

    Thanks Levi and team.

  • N-lightMike

    Member
    March 30, 2021 at 1:27 pm

    Thank you @Mark for you very respectful suggestion which got results.

    Thank you @Levi for this change, and please thank the rest of the team also. I think “Community Support” is much better.

    MG 😀

  • the-old-coach

    Member
    March 30, 2021 at 8:26 pm

    Thank you Levi- and also to your team for the new website! And also for all the hours both “on the clock” and on your own time- (probably countless!)- just thinkin’ about it🤔

    To mention my name in this discussion is really cool and appreciated- but I deserve no credit. You’ve got it all wrong. It is you-all who created that friendly, helpful, caring, encouraging, atmosphere here in our Community Forum. You-all are its heartbeat.

    It’s the quick-answer tip, it’s the long-answer explanation, it’s the “pick someone back up”, it’s the welcoming in someone new, it’s the sharing small wins, it’s the “keep it fun” reminders!, it’s the free-sharing of info from years of learning- to someone they don’t even know- (and THAT is REALLY cool….)…. but maybe MOST importantly— it’s the realization that– because of this Forum— none of us….. is alone in this Guitar Journey we’re all on.

    To me, anyway, this is the essence– the coolest part– of learning!

    For me personally– one of the cornerstones of this– our– TAC program, is how the Daily Lessons, and also the other Courses- (Barre, Jumpstarts, etc)- “push my limits– just a little”– and how that is perfectly balanced with the Community’s helpful nature when I need a little help. It’s the perfect way to LEARN guitar!

    Thank you Tony, Levi, and the whole crew. This new website is great stuff!

    But to you-all out there (I ain’t saying it all again)- you know how I feel — I’ve got nothin’ but thanks.

    Keep on pluckin’-

    Mark J

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